With the toilet cisterns now connected up we need to fill the header tank in the roof space with rain water. The installation instructions for the rain water harvesting system say to leave the pump out until you are ready to install it. IIn the background you can see the cover is off the manhole into the tank. The pump assembly is ready with its float to keep the gauze mesh pick up point off the bottom of the tank and the blue cord to lower it into the tank (and retrieve it later if servicing is required!)
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Installing the rain water harvesting submersible pump
Published by Kim Hull in General, Rainwater Harvesting
Rainwater cover on
Published by Kim Hull in Rainwater Harvesting
We’ve used some engineering bricks to build up around the “conning tower” of the rainwater harvesting tank to fix the cover supplied with the tank in place and at the correct finished level. We can now backfill with dig and then top soil to landscape it off. With the potential for people to fall into the tank (the water in it can be about 3 feet deep or more) a secure cover is essential.
More Rainwater Recovery cunning plans
Published by Kim Hull in Rainwater Harvesting
Forwarned that organic matter could cause problems with our rainwater harvesting plans, we have another trick up our sleeves, or perhaps I should say down our pipes. We bought German zinc guttering for the house and this included a rainwater butt spout for each side of the house. So… if we do put any more nutrient or fertilizer on the roof in the future, we can divert the water to a butt for a few weeks whilst the fertilizer is absorbed into the plants as a precaution by opening the chute like this…..
Rain Water Harvesting further developement
Published by Kim Hull in Rainwater Harvesting
So now we have to put the submersible pump in place and the water level sensor. These come in the kit which cost £2,600 plus VAT. It has probably cost the same amount to put the tank in the ground and concrete it in so it will be a long time before we get our money back at current water charges. However with the long term picture of every supply into a house being upwards in price it could be less than we think.
The tank came with two holes on one side, and the inlet and outflow sides for the main 110mm pipe clearly marked. Checking with the technical department of the suppliers it did not matter which way we fed the water in, but as the outflow was bonded in the tank at a slightly different height to the inlet, we decided to put it that way round, fibre-glass up the existing two holes and create new ones on the other side.
We have two holes for the pump and level sensor, one for the 1″ pump fed pipe feeding to the header tank in the house and we are putting in a 1.25″ pipe over towards one of our large farm sheds (as in - ”one we prepared earlier”) just in case we need to take rain water from a “normal” roof with no risk of organic content.
Rain water harvesting developements
Published by Kim Hull in Rainwater Harvesting
Well, after some more thought we thought of a way to engineer a solution to the possible problem of having to divert the water from the sedum roof downpipes should “organic blooming” be an issue. Yes, as all boys will spot it is just like a railway siding that you might get after Christmas to augment your oval loop of track! An Osma 45 degree Y base with……..
one of these, something I did not know existed, but is called a “bung” (something I thought you gave a concierge) to block up the “siding”.
In the event that we have to divert the flown of the down pipes away from the tank, we just take the bung out of the ”siding” and put it in the main flow to the tank (the other branch of the “Y”).
So now HMS Overflow has a second conning tower plus a side mounted torpedo tube (according to the children that is) and we can backfill and cover it all up.
Rain Water Recovery tank fills up with a days rain
Published by Kim Hull in Rainwater Harvesting
Well yesterday it rained for nearly the whole day across the southern half of England and guess what, our part filled 6,000 litre tank filled to the top. The Sedum Roof had had a good wetting a few days before so had probably absorbed as much water as it wanted so it’s normal delay in allowing rain water through was much less than the normal 2 hours or so.
Rain Water Recovery tank installation three
Published by Kim Hull in Rainwater Harvesting
With the concrete pour finished our submarine HMS Overflow (enlarge the pic to see the name on the “conning tower”) is in her final resting place. The rest of the level will be made up with sand previously extracted from the hole and this means that if we need to change the pipe layout into or out of the tank in future due to any problems with the sedum we can do this as they will be accessible in the sand.
Rainwater Harvesting tank installation part two
Published by Kim Hull in Rainwater Harvesting
Firstly we lower the tank onto the concrete slab we prepared earlier
Then it’s “strap”, check it’s level and start filling the tank with the garden hose to help weight the tank down. We gave the tank a thorough clean on the inside to make sure we were starting with a clean tank in view of the warning about organic matter “blooming” with fertilizer from the sedum roof.
The concrete lorry arrives late in the day after a few beefy showers. We had taken the precaution of temporarily connecting the outflow from the the roof to the tank to avoid any of the side of the hole being washed onto the slab. We had some considerable flow into the tank during the rain, as the sedum had already had a good soaking over the weekend, so it’s a good job we did hook it up, and pleasing to see that we will get water in the tank! Phew!
Rainwater Havesting installation
Published by Kim Hull in Rainwater Harvesting
So you make a big hole in the ground for the rain water harvesting tank, pour some concrete to make a slab (about 6″ thick is fine) making sure you place some steel loops to strap the tank down on to the slab so that it does not float up when you put more concrete on it to hold it down. We are on very free draining sandy soil but with the heavy flooding of recent times, the idea of the tank rising up out of the ground if it were empty prior to heavy rain fall was something we wanted to avoid. Our tank supplier said there have been a few stories of people who just backfilled with pea shingle or similar having such uplifting experiences so for £500-600 of concrete (about 8 cubic metres) it did not seem worth taking the risk.
Rain Water Harvesting tank arrives
Published by Kim Hull in Rainwater Harvesting
Here’s our latest bit of technological fun. We have decided to try to engineer a rainwater recovery system into the house, despite our sedum roof, which will absorb a lot of the water unless we get heavy rain. The tank is oversized at 6,000 ltrs so that the reduced rainwater because of the sedum can be made up in period of heavy rain.
However, having made this bold decision we now find there are two issues we will have to contend with. Firstly running a bigger tank works against the principle that the tank should regularly rise and fall during wet and dry periods so that the water is regularly exchanged.
Secondly the fertilizer put on the sedum roof at installation could possibly wash into the tank, encouraging orgnic matter to bloom. This has been a problem on other installations so we will have to watch out for this. However our roof and the installation fertilizing was done some months ago so hopefully most of this has been adsorbed or washed through.
Certainly we are advised by the technical department of the tank suppliers not to use the system for the washing machine, only the toilets.
The tank and pump kit cost £2,600 (plus VAT) and the groundwork installation plus the additional “grey water” plumbing system in the house (with it’s own header tank) will probably double this cost. So another thing to play with but unless water prices soar over the next 10 years a doubtfull excercise in cost effectiveness.
